Ask Mama Amy Episode 22: Midwives of Tourmaline Collective 

 May 13, 2022

By  Amy Hsiao

Ask Mama Amy Episode 22: Midwives of Tourmaline Collective

As one of the most developed countries, the United States has one of the highest maternal death rates. For most American women, giving birth in a traditional hospital setting is their first choice. While this is a viable option, there are other safe and effective ways to give birth that are simply less known. In today’s episode, host Amy Hsaio is joined in conversation with Josie Patricio Petrich, Maral Shabak, and Allison Tartari, the Midwives of Tourmaline to discuss all things midwifery.

Even though all three women come from very different backgrounds, their goal is all the same: to provide women and their families with a safe and personalized birthing environment. According to the midwives, one of the most effective ways to increase safety in birth is to establish a genuine connection between the family and their provider. While hospitals are usually the first option, they don’t provide personalized care and often perform unnecessary medical interventions– which only increase the likelihood of something going wrong. At the end of the day, birth should be an empowering and transformative experience; and every woman deserves the chance to choose the option that will make her feel safe.

Tune into this week’s episode of Ask Mama Amy to learn more about the role of a midwife, the importance of personalized birthing care, and how midwifery provides women with a safe space to give a natural and beautiful birth.


  • “I was able to see how difficult Western medicine can be on anybody who's not a cis-white male. And so I really wanted to explore how to support women and non binary people in different ways, especially around birth, because by definition, it’s not a medical procedure.” (05:38-06:02 Maral)
  • “After giving birth in the hospital with my first daughter, I realized that the hospital wasn't really set up to give individualized care or to share the goals of what every family is working towards.” (07:25-07:42 Josie)
  • “I wanted to support women and families giving birth. But I wanted to do it on their terms and not within the confinement of protocols and regulations that aren't really governed on individualized care or safety.” (08:20-08:45 Josie)
  •  “You can only birth successfully in a place where you feel safe.” (16:09-16:12 Maral)
  • “In America, we have the highest maternal death rate in all developed countries, and it's just because of a lack of community, lack of individualized care, and unneeded interventions.” (20:25-20:39 Allison)
  • ”A strong mom is a mom that knows what she wants and is not fixated on the outcome, but really indulges in the journey that is motherhood.” (23:45-23:57 Josie)

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